‘It’s Not a Tragedy’: Pastor Who Delivered Controversial Sermon on White Orlando Shooting Refuses to Retract Comments

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Pastor Roger Jimenez of Verity Baptist Church in Sacramento delivered a sermon hours after the attack in which he told his congregation that they “shouldn’t be mourning the death of 50 sodomites.”

“People say, like: ‘Well, aren’t you sad that 50 sodomites died?’” Jimenez said, referring to the 49 victims who were killed by gunman Omar Mateen, who was later killed in a shoot-out with police. “Here’s the problem with that. It’s like the equivalent of asking me — what if you asked me: ’Hey, are you sad that 50 pedophiles were killed today?’”

“Um, no, I think that’s great,” he continued. “I think that helps society. You know, I think Orlando, Florida, is a little safer tonight.”

The California pastor went even further to say that the real “tragedy” was that more lives were not lost in the devastating attack.

“The tragedy is — I’m kind of upset that he didn’t finish the job!” Jimenez said, referring to Mateen, who pledged allegiance to the Islamic State before opening fire on unarmed clubgoers.

“I wish the government would round them all up, put them up against a firing wall, put a firing squad in front of them, and blow their brains out,” Jimenez added during his Sunday sermon, which Verity Baptist posted on its website with the title “The Christian Response to the Orlando Murders.”

What are your thoughts?

Now the pastor does not say rejoice, but I quote this verse for those ignorant of this passage concerning the downfall of the wicked. “Rejoice not when thine enemy falleth, and let not thine heart be glad when he stumbleth: Lest the LORD see it, and it displease him, and he turn away his wrath from him” (Proverbs 24:17-18.

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5 responses to “‘It’s Not a Tragedy’: Pastor Who Delivered Controversial Sermon on White Orlando Shooting Refuses to Retract Comments

  1. “For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies,” declares the Lord GOD. “Therefore, repent and live.” Ezekial 18:32 Precious in the sight of the LORD is the death of his saints. Psalm 116:15 The church is not here to condemn lost people, they are condemned already. I wonder if he would say the same thing about a lost man living with his girlfriend who pays his taxes and volunteers for Habitat for Humanity on a consistent basis. This man is as much an enemy of God as the homosexual or rapist. They need salvation, they don’t need to be shot. He needs to remember where he came from and thank God, someone didn’t feel the same way he does and shoot him before he repented and came to Christ, if he indeed did. This is not righteous anger. If this man is a messenger of God, what homosexual would be running to Jesus after hearing this?

    • I would agree with the notion presented in Scripture that the sin of sodomy does not mean automatic hell as an unforgivable sin, however God never calls fornication or adultery an abomination. In fact, Paul speaks on the subject of sodomy and says that God gave these people up for destruction. Sins like he mentioned pedophilia and you could add beastuality are abominations. This type of sin warranted the destruction of a whole city. David, Abraham, Jacob all had multiple wives. Of course, these abominations are not outside the realm of grace as I believe the unforgivable sin is suicide. Also, I think it needs to be noted that this man was speaking to his church family and his audience are Christians. This is not a defense, but a response to make the subject plenary.

    • Based upon your last comment, I believe there may have been some confusion. My only stance is for Freedom of Speech and Religion. I think the 1st Amendment should be upheld for all people whether we agree or disagree with a persons theological interpretation. Secondly, the ONLY sin I see based upon my understanding of the Scriptures as the unforgivable is suicide.

      Lastly, when God is talking about not taking pleasure in those who die, he is talking to his children, not Satans. You may recall in Psalm 2:4, Proverbs 1:26, Psalm 59:8 that God laughs, scoffs, and mocks the calamity of Satans children.

  2. I guess we need to establish the difference between committing an abomination and that which is an abomination to the Lord. Levitical law does state that the homosexual who engages in such acts commits an abomination and its punishment is death. The punishment for adultery is also death. Proverbs 6 lists 7 things that are “an abomination unto Him,” none of which speak on homosexuality, bestiality, or pedophilia directly. Ezekiel 16 sheds light on what Jerusalem’s abominations were to the LORD. He speaks about her whoredom and fornication. Particularly, in verses 48-50 we see why the LORD destroyed Sodom. Homosexuality was the last thing on the list, pride was mentioned twice. Lastly, it was God who “took them away” as He saw good. Let God be the one to administer judgment to the wicked. This pastor is overstepping his bounds to wish that the government would round them up and blow their brains out. Some of the believers at Corinth were homosexuals. Could not God wash, sanctify, and justify in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God the homosexuals of today? I just don’t see how he can think it’s great to see 50 souls condemned to hell for eternity, regardless of them deserving it. But by the grace of God, the saint was on his way there too.
    He has the right to his opinion. I hope he stated it as such and not as the mind and heart of God.

    • Again, my comment is not an endorsement, however this man is speaking to his own congregation, no different then the KKK does theres. I don’t see the US rounding them up and black people are being hung in this country at this present day. Now concerning abomination. Leviticus 18 outlines a list of sexual sins and when it gets to Leviticus 18:22 It says, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.” This is so filthy in God’s sight that he mentions this specifically, but when you remain in the context and we get to verse 27 we find a collective statement “(For all these abominations have the men of the land done, which were before you, and the land is defiled;)”. Now Sodom is not the only city God destroyed, Pompeii was another, Nineveh has been identified by non-canonical sources to be another.

      The Book of Romans pushes this further: For this cause God GAVE THEM UP unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that RECOMPENSE of their error which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a REPROBATE MIND, to do those things which are not convenient; Romans 1:26-28.

      You don’t find this language for any other sexual sin. Now, fornication, (although sometimes used in a nonsexual way, which is another discussion), adultery (same thing), were punishable by death in the law. God also killed 23 thousand fornicators 1 Corinthians 10:8 also 23 thousand died by plague (STD’s) for sexual immorality in Number 1:1-9.

      However, you cannot deny the number of men that God seemingly winked at their sin. Samson was sleeping with a prostitute and only lost his anointing when his hair was cut. David, Solomon, and even Hosea was called by God to sleep with a prostitute as a representation for what the people of Israel was doing against him, but the Bible never mentions a redemptive sodomite. Its absence does not mean no salvation, but that is a pretty strong statement.

      Now concerning this pastor the real issue is the attack on the constitution. Every American is supposed to have rights. Freedom of Religion and Freedom of Speech. This is why institutions like the KKK and Satanist Church can set up their statutes and hold their rallies in public without fear of retribution. I have not seen one Christian kill or set up a militia for the killing of anyone. As Americans, if we lose our ability to speak and practice our own religion, we are heading down a dangerous path. This is how Civil Wars are started.

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